Friday, February 26, 2016

Original chat attacked in, then Sirgei hijacked

TUE 11:23AM

Julia
I have selected you to share behind scenes because you are here now.
I have done all I can.
For two weeks I have been eating dog food.
I have no water left.
And have not had a shower in 3 weeks.
I am down to fumes in gas.
I have not had propane in 2 weeks.
Mohamad Rahmoun left the group.
Julia
That is what is happening behind scenes.
I have done all I could.
If you have joined my profile for entertainment.
Here is the entertainment.
Here is the truth.
It will be 7 days before I have enough money even for water. Water is not free.
In three days I and greenbean will be dead with out water.
I watched Ethan raise $1000 toward bail this week with help from his friends.
I have politely and quietly asked near every one of you for help
I have tolerated taunting of me from my g+ account. I have endured the loss that anyone anywhere cares for me.
This is the facts as I see them
And through these weeks of eating dog food, of no heat, and dwindling supplies, ...
Never once did I show that hardship in my work. on my page, across my networks.
I have woke up at dawn every moring, looking for any kind of scrap of work.
I have put in over 100 bids on upwork
answered 100's of craiglist ads.
It is not that I have not tried.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Julia, I have no money. Do you want me to help crowdsource some funds for you? I can set up a YouCaring or GoFundMe campaign.
Julia
I have made the effort to clear my lists of anyone that did not want to be here.
Well, here we are.
We can watch me die.
I have no more strength to carry on
I have watched my friend,
I have begged a preach to save 4 souls.
I am tired.
I have nothing left.
I give up.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Julia?
Julia
yes, D?
Welcome.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Julia
Would you like to see the mold stained wall of the god forsaken box I live in?
And will aparently die in?
Delphine Brody
Delphine
No, I just need a brief bio highlighting your work and accomplishments and a brief description of your urgent circumstances that's OK to publicize.
Julia
Daphine clearly what ever I do is not good enugh.
I do not now how to better describe myself or my work
Maybe, some of these friends know.
You added Judy English.
You added Mary Moore.
Julia
Let me testament to what happen here on the ground this past week.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
If there's a current bio on your website you want me to use, I will use that.
Julia
Some local that knows me or of me, and got my attention took me to a used to be indian site that is now owned by texacco. this site has a tower and is very remote.
He stashes me there and the neighbor comes up too. Both really proud to have found me some place out side the city in remotee lands.
Well, the next day after arrival.... tower service personal come and do not leave.
the guy that showed me the place said even as we were driving up to the remote location, that there is never as many people and cars around as there were..... when he was driving me up...
three days after, he come back and says, you have to go. I like you and all, but I am supposed to be protecting this territory for ( his word for cartel)
The tower guys had at that point begain to block off the road. they guy points out this is too hot for him.
Poof, never hear from any of them again.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Julia
When he first met me , he was like. We are all here for you. This is our land. We are with you.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Sorry, that like was accidental.
Julia
It is OK. It is OK the thumbs up this. .
that is what we are here for.
to praise my abort.
you know what one of the behind the scenes jTRIGs said to me today...
That I needed to read more feminist books.
that I was not feminist enough and that was my problem
Have any of you even eaten dog food before?
we have six cans left.
but what does that metter when we have no water
I am watching Green bean drink the last of it now.
everyone in this chat knows me in some way.
I never get achknowledged or so it seems
Let's ask @JuliaTenEyck about my letter to the Patriots.
She knows about that.
Jay knows about my sincere work across many spectums. I often plead with him
@MaryMoore knows how I have been totally forsaken by my family because of my activism
She has watch the patron of my family forsake me in front of the whole family on Christmas
Judy knows how my mom won't let me even use her address because she is afraid. Hell, even the cartels are afraid
Eric. good man eric
Together we went before the Savannah Police Department to negotiate for Occupy Savannah those beginning days.
I remember him tell me before I got there they interrogated him about the whole affiar.
You added Nickie Mcmillan.
Julia
Hi Nickie, I am glad you showed up on the chat
How are you?
Let me tell you guys about nickie
She saw the abuse put on to me by the Corporate USDA / Rural Del
Nickie can tell you some stories. Man that was rough.
I contacted every I could . I know I saved lives there.
Remember how they would inspect every damn week nickie?
Well, I am finally at the end of the rope, nickie
I watched my dog drink the last of the water a few minutes ago. and I am in the city.
There is no water to be had here.
I found a few spots along the way on BLM lands,
but they won't let you rest.
The last time I remember smiling was on the reservation.
you know when I asked the Yurok for political asylum, that was such a big deal for me.
I honestly thought native Ameican's have soverign nations.
did you gus know I have a cousin right over here in LA.
but my family is kind of part of what is wrong with America.
They are the type to not want any social help, saying family, charities and chrurch, should do that.
But I am the only person, save one other possible, but I never see or hear from her, she is kept out of sight. , I am the only one of my family that is not of means.
My mom tries to condition me telling me they are not my family
Saying that though those are my aunts, uncles, and cousins, their last name is different so they are not family.
So why not call your closest family... sister and brother,?
hell, my sister has two houses.
She is busy with her family.
that tells me, I am not family to her.
My brother is the same way, but even worse.
I know it will not take long without water.
As a kid I nearly died from lack of water.
My mom did not notice that I was sick and for days I laid in my bed, until I crawled into her room, and my dad noticed I was dying.
he arranged to get me to a doctor. Mom got so mad at me for being sick.
They said I was malnourished. She was furious that I got her in trouble.
I am sorry, what was I to do. I was just a kid.
Isn't that nice.
One of the fans came over to my page and doubted if Kisha was raped.
That is something special
Though you all have put me on ignore,
It is nice to have you here.
We should add Debra
She said she knew me as a young person
You added a participant.
Julia
Hi Deb
Deb is one of the few people from my childhood, or rather teen years.
That knew me.
Some of you know and some of you do not know, that I lost most my memory apexing in 2004
Funny how you stay hungry even when thursty.
Let's see, I have dog food and dog food to eat.
I think I am going to take some medicine to make this easier soon.
Go to sleep and I will barely notice thirsting.
You added Melanie Watson and Sirgei Agalzoff.
Julia
These tow do not really know me,
But I have always liked seeing them on the chat.
Hi Sir and Mel.
Welcome to behind the scenes with jc.
It is a special time.
I have tried near everything, but I have given up.
Daphine said she was making a go fund me, but really it is too late for that.
Julia
https://www.facebook.com/earthworksaction/posts/10153917988498838
NYC Considers Ban On All Fracking Byproducts
It targets a loophole that allows some forms of fracking to continue.
gothamist.com
you know why no one does a water strike.
Because they are chicken
Anyone can do a hunger strike.
But do a waterstrike and it is quick.
There is no more water to drink.
If I had any strength left, I would paint on the outside.
Julia
Ia m just tired of running.
Jay D Alexander
Jay
Julia

Thanks Jay. You have ben one of my best haters
And it is nice to see appreciation for the water strike.
She has no clue.
And I am not even going to add her back here.
Julia
Well, isn't that nice. someone running for governor friend-ed me.
I am taking and gonna give to greenbean a muscle traculizer (sp?) to make this easier on GB and I.
Tons of those but no water. no gas, no propane, no food.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Julia, wait! What is your number?
Julia
Too bad I am not a dope dealer
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Can we talk?
My number is (916) 616-1703. Please call.
Where are you and Green Bean right now, Julia?
Jay D Alexander
Jay
Go Bernie
Delphine Brody
Delphine
I was reading your messages above and at first it sounded like you were stranded in a remote rural location without water. Then you wrote you were in the city. Which city?
Jay D Alexander
Jay
Where are you Julia?
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Then you wrote "here in LA". Are you in Los Angeles? Or Louisiana?
Julia
I have tried Deph.
I am tired.
I am going to rest. I do not think I'll see a better way when I wake. But maybe.
So many do hunger strikes. Why not a water strike?
It is not like my voice will be missed.
Another great thing that happen this month. I had to order needles for my shots. and again my mail was interrupted.
every package I get gets sent back often for unknown reasons. And has to be reshipped to me.
This is very stressful and annoying. And frankly, most would be intimidated by it.
You added Ann Garrett.
Julia
Welcome ann. How are you?
Good to see little russ. Thanks for posting that
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Julia, can we talk?
I am very concerned about your safety right now.
Julia
Yes, everywhere on the Earth you have a legal choice to give up eating and drinking.
Julia
I am going to go take a walk. This is not like this is rash. It will take time.
When I get back. I'll tell you about how, I was refused my medical records, or forced to pay $1000's of dollars for them.
Nickie Mcmillan left the group.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Julia, what is your hoped for result of this conversation? What is it you hope will take place by reaching out to us this way?
A contact left the group.
Julia
My hoped - A voluntary death takes everyone else's feelings into account.
And when they know all the facts and opinions,
they admire the choice for death rather than regret it.
In contrast, irrational suicides leave the family and friends in deep sorrow,
wondering what they should have done to prevent that self-destruction.
Voluntary deaths elicit admiration from those who were closest.
Julia
Moreover, I would like to bring attention to some of the issues that has me stepping forward on this thirst strike.
You added Donald G Walker and Danny Livingston.
Julia
hi Danny. I would like you here because you were the last person that took me for an CAT scan.
That meant a lot to me.
You added Scott Sorensen.
Julia
Hi Scott, I am adding you because I feel you will understand the right to protest.
Scott Sorensen
Scott
Julia
When I came west, I had my b12 stockpiled fairly well. Skipping the political asylum request part, and skipping right to the medical part that I said I would share...
When I got here I had to find a doctor because I had began short shotting just west of the mississippi.
I had to do that because my medicine insurance for my medicine found itself in an unexplainable computer error that caused me not to exist.
When I finally did get to a doctor, The whole office and clinic experienced an audit. This is the thrird doctor that has endured such
I got a call
back
Donald G Walker
Donald
Remember I am still unemployed myself but if you can get here I will share what I have.
Which is not much...
Julia
One doctor, Doctor Clemmons endured these audits more than one time. She however stood up to them. And demanded my right to have my treatment.
This doctor was bullied. And said to me that he feared for his licence.
We tried to get my medical records, but the contract company in GA that was assigned to transfer my medical records kept making computer errors.
That left me here with no medical records.
So I try to get them, I call GA and am told that a new state law prevents me from getting them unless I pay $5 a page ( the exact amount I am uncertain of but it was way out of means even for most)
So in essence, I have not had a doctor to help manage my catastrophic and usually fatal illness in over a year.
However, one of the things about my medical care that really bother me is my life saving medicine rose 6000% in cost. It had been in use and inexpensive since the 70's
Where I once had hope of managing my terminal illness and perhaps returning to the workforce, I lost all hope of managing it.
Seen by Danny Livingston at Tuesday 5:33pm
You added Challice Finicum Finch.
Julia
I would also like to protest the amount of land taken by the federal government.
This amount of land has created an artifical market to where no one but the most elite of our county can have the american dream
But more closer to me. the right for campers to camp.
I cannot even use public lands to self sustain myself.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Julia
Then we go to the shere lack of help I have gotten as a disabled person, which was highlighted by a wkiileaks leak https://wikileaks.org/sourceamerica-tapes/
WikiLeaks - The SourceAmerica Tapes
If you need help using Tor you can contact WikiLeaks for assistance in setting it up using our simple webchat available at: https://wikileaks.org/talk
wikileaks.org
If you are unfamiliar with the process of dehydration,
I have been reading here. http://www.tc.umn.edu/~parkx032/CY-VD-H2.html
RIGHT TO DIE--MORAL AND ETHICAL ASPECTS---Voluntary Death by Dehydration
Voluntary death by dehydration might be the best choice for these six reasons.
tc.umn.edu
You added Melanie Schneiter.
Julia
I am going to rest for a bit. I am already weak from the 8 days without food of significance.
And I am going to save my battery too.
you are welcome to text me, but I am not answering the phone right now.
5414158974
Good night, see ya'll tomorrow. Another cold night. I might as well get some restful sleep befit gets too cold
before*
Melanie Schneiter
Melanie
Jay D Alexander
Jay
Nite
Melanie Schneiter
Melanie
You can go days without eating. Water is a different story. If you are already I'll it is not wise. I could not do this because of my blood pressure. It would make it worse.
Melanie Schneiter left the group.
WED 3:43AM

Julia
Morning.
I am pretty weak. But feeling very at peace.
Julia
So this guy that had made a point to meet me by being directly in my path, finally return my calls. I had called twice. He asked me where I was. He had said he was local, but when I discribed where I was he did not know. I mention him, not only becuase he called, but also because of how he made fun of Native Americans. More so, in the way he did when we first met.
Julia
The guy I am going to give the name stan.
There was another person close by while stan and I were talking and stan greeted him with some nonsense, I know it was nonsense, about Native americans, then stan was like literly said, "How," to this guy, expounding that that is how native american greet each other.
Very strange. He guilt complexed the guy into saying "how" back.
Then last night, ...Though I was mostly asleep...and did not observe or pay attention much, but I could not aviod noticing .
I am parked far away from really anyone, maybe a lone truck waiting for the factory might park over here....
There was a group of maybe 3 or four males, that were in the area. Thier flashlights got greenbean barking.
I hushed him up. They continued thier shannagins for a bit. They were rather jovial about kicking a door in, where I do not know, and talking about body bags and yelling out "hey somethingJ"
It was very strange. Happenstance, maybe.
Back to stan... I'll try to figure out where I am at and call him. But for someone that took my number and made a big deal out of talking to me he seemed pretty annoyed when he called yesterday. Literly saying, "what do you need?" no hello, no how are you...
What was really strange is that he said he "does not do anything with computers" and yet, he texted me. He had made it seem like he was no able to text when we met.
One of the first things on my mind was coffee, I had a real comforting feeling it was almost like I could feel it. coffee and a long donut" it felt so real not like I could taste it, but like the feeling it gives, in comfort. the plesentness.
then I remembered, ...
or should I say woke up.
I have not have hot coffee and a pastry in months, and no hot coffee for a week or so,
I have been drinking cold instant.
But not even that this morning.
I am going back to bed.
Seen by Challice Finicum Finch at Wednesday 4:31am
WED 9:03AM

Julia
Well, it is warm enought to type without shivering
Julia
So, it is not that bad. I am using the hints from that page.
It is the 24th that is a weds.
Scott Sorensen
Scott
Rough here too. Week of rain and now cold. No funds but tent's nice and dry. Tomorrow looks better. Warm enough to bathe. Coffee not cut off either.
Julia
yea, I am in a desert
my place is not nice and dry.
I have asked every one I can for help, work, driving traffic to my paid site.
I have not have a shower in over three weeks.
LaVoy got shot . David did what he did.
Scott Sorensen
Scott
Shit! How cold is it? Arizona green-tea jugs filled with hot water work nicely if you punch holes in the top. Detergent jugs too...they have handles and you'll need two.
Julia
I have been driven to the city
I can only hide in the truck and hope I do not get caught
When I go to BLM lands I have to deal with the asshatt BLM
Anyway, so ya'll know how big a loss the Oregon front was to me here is the letter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17PGThiy0EKOWz58H1wLv7TPNknw9VN9aUsLmjRFrlmw/edit
Lavoy Finicum, Ammon and Ryan Bundy,
Lavoy Finicum, Ammon and Ryan Bundy, I came across America, from Georgia to California, under a gaslighting by the BLM. I am not certain how I got on the BLM's radar. However, I did. They interviewed me about the Oathkeepers. They were off track there, but I still got caught up in the crossfire...
docs.google.com
Scott, I have been on the run or move for over a year, every since BLM interrogated me.
It feels like no one is giving me any nod for my work, either.
Not just that above. but a lot of other things too.
I have asked for help and I get little more than jTRIG answers
yesterday, I was told I should read feminist books.
Julia
I am suprised at how well, I am feeling.
A bit of a headache, some leg craps.
Julia
So, I called my only contact in this town, remember this is the guy that was not teck savey. His mail box is full and cannot accept messages.
Ok sure
Anyway, sent to lone contact a text message.
Julia
I do want to thank you all for being here.
Julia
Why is everyone so quite?
quiet*
WED 11:39AM

Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Would you like us to send some help where you are at?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
If you give us your location, maybe we can send some help remotely...
Julia
I just got off the phone with Deph.
Thanks Sirgei.
She is going to be setting up a campaign.
She says though she needs some help in describing why, I and my campaigns are worthy.
She was at first confused thinking I have nothing to live for, that is fartherest from the case.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
"If you give us your location, maybe we can send some help remotely..."
Julia
Thanks, I sent if to you. As I explained to Deph. There are security issues. Not everyone in this group chat is a friendly.
I went into depth with Deph, but frankly, I am not good at highlighting my own works.
And I am getting weaker.
The main purpose of this water stake was and is to highlight what has been happening to me.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Not just the city but the actual location.
i.e. the corner of ______ and _______
i.e. GPS 35.368465, -119.019261
Julia
I shared with Deph several instances where people around me have been intimidated into fearing me.
Julia
For example, a local here showed me a spot and was being helpful. However, they noticed on the drive up that there was way more traffic than norm, which was usually 0, for the area. Then, when they show me the spot, which had a communications tower, the whole time I was there there were 3 tech vehicles with crew. The farmers and field workers that was helping became fearful.
Julia
Frankly, Sirgei, though I am doing 0% wrong. I do not need police called on me.
Ann Garrett
Ann
Little Russ is doing much better. As you can see he is really growing. I am just getting over pneumonia. My 46 year old daughter died December 22nd.
Seen by Ann Garrett at Wednesday 12:42pm
Julia
I am very sorry for your loss, Ann. It is tragic to lose a child.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
If as you said above: "Not everyone in this group chat is a friendly.",
how come are they in this group chat?
I believe Julia you created this chat group of which purpose, I am confused about....
Julia
I created this group chat to share my Water Strike.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
OK, noticed. What is the purpose of the strike?
Julia
To bring attention to 1) the intimidation happening around me 2) the works I have been doing 3) causes such as
the land grab by the federal government that is wiping whole communities into poverty.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
OK there are only 14 people in this chat group. Most of them doing other things.
I just saw only other person reading this chat group thread.
Julia
yea, I have noticed too.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Is it worth it to have a Water Strike for only one person?
What will you end up accomplishing in the end?
Julia
That is why I am saying not all are friendly here. I am surrounded in many places by jTRIGs
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
What is jTRIGs?
Julia
Do you know about Wikileaks, Sirgei?
You know about Glenn Greenwald.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Some...
So what is jTRIG's?
Julia
I am using jTRIGs as a noun a grenal name for hostile actions https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations
One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction.

theintercept.com
I use the word jTRIG as a proper noun to describe online and of line hostile actions.
Such as the tower experience I describe earlier.
However, the tower incident is not the lone incident
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Ah, I see, "How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations".
Julia
Not just reputations
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Well maybe is best not to have a reputation and not being so gullible...
Julia
but oh so much more.
Thanks for those words. Sirgie
I'll put that with the read more feminist books....
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
The system is always trying to get to the leaders of any movement that are trying to make a positive change in society...
... maybe is about time to have a...
LEADERLESS MOVEMENT!
Julia
yea. Ok
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I am not telling you what to do. I specifically disqualified my statement with the words ... maybe is...
Hypothetically speaking.
Julia
I am pretty low key. Not sure how you are getting leader out of me. ;P
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So any how, you are making a Water Strike with only one other person in this chat group...
do you think that is a smart move?
Julia
There are others they are coming and going
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
would that give you any, whatsoever, of the results that you expect?
Well, let us know your location then we may be able to send help remotely.
Julia
Fact is. I am out of water.
Mary Moore left the group.
Julia
Locals have been terrofied of me
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
HELP US TO HELP YOU!
Mary Moore left the conversation.
one less person.
I am about to go and take care of things...
while you gather some sense and tell us your exact location so we - may - be able to send some help.
LATER...
Julia
Thanks for your prayers.
You added John Anthony Fairhurst.
Julia
One left one came
I asked you what do you propose?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
i propose that...
Julia
give you my exact location for what exactly?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
YOU GIVE US YOUR EXACT LOCATION SO WE CAN SEND SOME HELP!
Julia
Define help
Seen by Julia TenEyck at Wednesday 1:14pm
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
later again.
Julia
I am getting weak. I am going to go lay down
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Hi Sirgei and all, I am helping Julia crowdsource enough funds via GoFundMe for basic resources to tide her over this month and future months, so that she can end this water strike and she and Green Bean can go on living. She has much to live for, including her activism and some important projects she is planning. Any help you can offer is greatly appreciated.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Thank you Delphine
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Her immediate needs include drinking water for herself and her dog Green Bean, a tank of gas, two five-gallon containers of water, and some food.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So how are we going to be able to get it to her?
John Anthony Fairhurst
John
Where is she
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
She will not tell publicly
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Julia has a PayPal account. She's reluctant to disclose her precise location for security reasons.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
What security reasons? She is in a Water Strike. That does not sound very secure, does it?
John Anthony Fairhurst left the group.
Julia
Well, Sergei, comparing apples to oranges. Does not a realistic argument make.
Fortunately for me, I am not in the "city proper" that I shared with you.
Thanks for calling the law. He was nice. And will be checking up on me. And does believe in the constitution.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Who called the cops?
Are you OK?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Yes, who called?
Julia
I do not know the intimate details of this area, so I refrained from sharing with him anything more than surface details.
What was your proposal then Sergei.
Of course, it all could have been unfortunate timing.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Who is "him"?
What proposal Julia?
Julia
In an group chat such as this, your nonsense does not play as well.
And I have asked you more than once...... What do you propose, Sergei
Thank you Dalphine.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I just looked back in the thread and I said this at 1:13:

"i propose that..."

"YOU GIVE US YOUR EXACT LOCATION SO WE CAN SEND SOME HELP!"
Julia
Define help...
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
getting you some water for starters...
Julia
Do you have contacts in this area?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
a. To give assistance to (someone);

http://thefreedictionary.com/help
help
Definition, Synonyms, Translations of help by The Free Dictionary
thefreedictionary.com
What is "this area"?
Julia
Why are you so dead set on me telling you such in this chat?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
After asking you

"What is the purpose of the strike?" at 12:48pm

you said "To bring attention..." at 12:52pm
Sound to me that you would get more attention if you give us your location.
*Sounds
Julia
Sirgei, who are you trying to convenience yourself, or others.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Convince of what?
What is interesting to me is that you do not seem to trust people in this chat thread, yet you brought the participants to this thread
I am puzzled
Some inconsistencies.
i.e. "security" reasons, but not drinking water is not secure?
Julia
You are very good at being disparaging toward me.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Security: 1. Freedom from risk or danger; safety.

http://thefreedictionary.com/security
disparage: 2. To reduce in esteem or rank.

http://thefreedictionary.com/disparaging
disparaging
Definition, Synonyms, Translations of disparaging by The Free Dictionary
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Is it esteem to deny your body of water?
You added Alex Braun.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Are you disparaging your own body that has carried your conscience named "Julia" every moment of your life?
... every single moment...
Julia
Sirgei, you have chatted with Delph , she has discussed the issues at hand
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Every single moment Julia's body has carried Julia, but now Julia's ego is disparaging Julia's body needs.
Julia
And as Alex has pointed out, would it be better splashed across the screens.
yes, it would
However, this is what was given.
I have no water,
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Let's stick to the question:

"Are you disparaging your own body that has carried your conscience named "Julia" every moment of your life?"
How can we get you some water, if we do not know your location?
Julia
Dear Friends,
I have selected you to share behind scenes because you are here now.
I have done all I can.
For two weeks I have been eating dog food.
I have no water left.
And have not had a shower in 3 weeks.
I am down to fumes in gas.
I have not had propane in 2 weeks.
Mohamad Rahmoun left the group.
Julia
That is what is happening behind scenes.
I have done all I could.
If you have joined my profile for entertainment.
Here is the entertainment.
Here is the truth.
It will be 7 days before I have enough money even for water. Water is not free.
In three days I and greenbean will be dead with out water.
I watched Ethan raise $1000 toward bail this week with help from his friends.
I have politely and quietly asked near every one of you for help
I have tolerated taunting of me from my g+ account. I have endured the loss that anyone anywhere cares for me.
This is the facts as I see them
And through these weeks of eating dog food, of no heat, and dwindling supplies, ...
TUE 11:36AM

Never once did I show that hardship in my work. on my page, across my networks.
I have woke up at dawn every moring, looking for any kind of scrap of work.
I have put in over 100 bids on upwork
answered 100's of craiglist ads.
It is not that I have not tried.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
The immediacy of needs is, breathing, drinking water, eating, sleeping every day, shelter.
If you are typing I suppose you are breathing, but Julia you adamantly seem to refuse to give the body that has carried you some water, because things are not as your ego named Julia would want them to be...
Julia
you I think are one of the one's here for entertainment, sirgei
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
When you are saying "here for entertainment" is that projecting?
Julia
You are a fine example of why the OWS movement was so frail
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
What would an American shaman would say about disparaging owns body by prohibitting the intake of water?
Alex Braun
Alex
What is your goal with this strike?

Who is supposed to take action from this strike?

Seeing as death by dehydration takes about 10 days, do you expect this goal to be reached by then?

Do you have a localized support system to help you through this 10 day process towards death?

Have you publicized this beyond this meme?

Seeing as a water strike is a much shorter process than a food strike, there needs to be a lot of planning and outreach done before you start. otherwise you die for no reason.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Speaking of OWS why did you quit NatGat3 in Sacramento after only a portion of the NatGat3?
You could have stayed and help out, or just make more friends...
Julia
NatGat3 was and is a sham
It was little more than a BLM gaslighting
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
It was where the people that were aligned with OWS met, but you call it a "sham"
Now you call it gaslighting...
Julia
I was interrogated by BLM legal affairs as soon as I got into CA
I have been calling it a gaslighting for a while
It was and is.
It was sabotaged to fail from the begining.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So tell us, why was NatGat3 a "sham"?
How was NatGat3 sabotaged?
Did you go to NatGat3 GA and warn others?
Julia
They did a good job. However, what it left. Was hundreds of Occupy movements that were little more than the local vice squad and a Facebook page. However, that is also hundreds of cops in small mid-sized areas. Places that do not get enough pay, does not have enough equipment, and in general been getting jacked around for years. The cross country trip to the NATGAT2014 reveled and confirmed the sham Occupies.

However, this also created something else. In some of the larger areas and bigger cities, they were totally co-opted by police and corporate security interests. Occupy Orlando is one such example.

NATGAT was a total gaslight. For me it was just a means and way for BLM to corner me and interrogate me about Oathkeepers. When I got to California, I found out that the largest financier of my trip was BLM legal affairs.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Thank you for sharing your perspective about NatGat, now let's stick with the question:
"Did you go to NatGat3 GA and warn others?"
Alex Braun
Alex
I can't consider supporting this until my questions are answered.
Julia
As you probably knew already, Julia Clark traveled through rural cities across the Southeast this summer for the Occupy National Gathering in Sacramento, CA, and rallied Occupiers along the way.

Julia over came obstacle, after obstacle along the way. Two new tires blowouts, numerous communication blocks, a computer glitches that affected her medical insurance, redirected her GPS leading into harms way, and deleted the petty cash fund,

The largest assault was to the main funds account. This assault was cunning and over a year in the making. Julia outlines the assault here.

It was that fiscal assault that lead Julia Clark to seek and request Political Asylum from the Yurok Nation.
Julia
Sirgei you are being disruptive.
You added Ethan Gideon Sean McCord.
Julia
I understand Alex.
I have no water. This were it is at
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Define disruptive
Where can we bring you some water?
Julia
Sirgei, you just want my location to snitch me or harm me in some way.
Do you have a water truck?
Are you planning personally to come?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
How do you define when someone says that has no water, but when someone volunteers to bring water calls said person "disruptive"?
Julia
I think you have pretty much outed yourself, sirgei.
Thought, this chat had jTRIGs added so they could watch, there are also Patriots and good people
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I have family in different places. The Rainbow Family that is, if I do not go there personally, I may send you some Family member that may be close to you.
Julia
Why was that so difficult to say? And why did it take so long to comeforth
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Are you going to drink "... a water truck?"
Ethan Gideon Sean McCord left the group.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So you left NatGat3 early, because it was "... a sham" as you said.

Now, you claim that you have no water, and apparently rather die of thirst, but it is "unsafe" to give up your location to the people in this thread, that you invited yourself...

hum...
Julia
So you want to broadcast my address to the "rainbow" family.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
how many people in this thread have made an "oath" to you Julia?
Julia
That fact that you know that........ says at least one.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
How many people in this thread did you insisted to make an "oath" to you as you insisted to me?
Julia
you did not oath did you?
That explains why you are trying to hurt me.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Absolutely NOT
I do not take oaths
that is what the religion of Gover-Ment does to it's servants
*Gover-Ment
*Govern-Ment
Govern = control
Ment = mind
Julia
Ether you are here to help.... or you are not
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I am here to help...
Julia
I will not have my location broadcast-ed to "the family"
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
... where can we bring you some water with some ice cubes?
Julia
you are so viscous. Is there any detail you would not like to share about me?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So let's go back to the oaths, besides me who did you insisted that made an oath to you?
Julia, you have so many inconsistencies.
You claim that NatGat3 was a sham, but did not sticked around to warn others and take corrective action.
Julia
you are a jealous man.
yep, It was a sham
I did tell.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Then you claim that you are in a Water Strike, but it is unsecure to give your location.
Julia
I do not stick around for shams.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
You press me into giving you an oath...
*pressed me...
Julia
Sirgei you are just gonna have to wait.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So you abandoned the people that were aligned with OWS at NatGat3, yet you put blame on me by saying to me "You are a fine example of why the OWS movement was so frail" at 3:39pm
Did you make NatGat3 stronger by quitting?
Or, did you contributed to make it "frail" by quitting?
Are you making your body "frail" by quitting other people's efforts to help you
?
Julia
Why is it no one is saying I should trust you Sirgei?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Who is saying in this thread that they do not trust in the questions made to you?
"I can't consider supporting this until my questions are answered." at 3:39pm
Julia
Only 5 more days.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
... so, where can bring you some water?
Julia
However, if I survive this, I will be considering this again at a larger scale
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
*... can we bring
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
You will survive, reflect in the process and come out stronger. I can feel it!
Julia
you do not feel anything other than get my info .
I am so glad you are gloating over my suffering.
I am glad to have brought you some joy. Maybe one day you can torture me. That for you, it seems, would be a big win.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So where, can we bring you some water?
Julia
there you happy?
If bad happens to me, other people know
already had the cops show up after giving you the town
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So what are you saying is that the cops showed up and they did not arrested you?
In other words, the cops know where you are, but this group cannot know where you are?
Julia
He is one. here it is 16.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
16?
Julia
Why are you so determined to broadcast my location here?
Are you trying to cover your tracks?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
It is about trust, do you trust us?
Julia
I told you I added all here
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Se then tell "all here" where you are, then.
Julia
Sirgei
you are mean and hateful.
and evil.
your only goal is to hurt me
That is why you want my location in this chat
so you have 15 other people to blame
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
You said that a cop showed up, so the cops already know your location, yet you would not tell this group.
Julia
it is not only cops I am worried about
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
your location
Julia
your location
you are only looking to cover yourself by having 15 other people, whom I have already said I do not trust them all. to cover your footprints
Moreover, the more I am out the less I can do.
And that is what you really want.
Alex Braun
Alex
You added these people to this thread for a reason, and I don't think it was to argue with them.
I ask that you please take some time to answer the questions I posed. It will help in all further communications about this AND it will help you in articulating your intent and the reasoning.
Sally Gellert
Sally
Julia, I have been worrying about you, Delphine contacted me to find out if I knew why you were doing this, she lost her mother recently and is finding this particularly difficult.
Alex Braun
Alex
If you can't address the concerns and the valid questions people have asked, I wonder about the true intent of this.
There is a difference between wanting people's support and wanting attention.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Hi Sally, Julia and I have talked. I'm facilitating a meeting right now, but I'll be free in less than 2 hours.
Sally Gellert
Sally
I will be keeping this window open
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Seen by Sally Gellert at Wednesday 6:21pmSeen by Richard Burger at Wednesday 6:21pm
11:58AM

Julia
What is your goal with this strike?
To bring attention to my betroths, my engagements, my work, my activism and the deserving support required. And the direct effects of jTRIG actions as discribe from the Snowden Revelations.
“GCHQ describes the purpose of JTRIG in starkly clear terms: “using online techniques to make something happen in the real or cyber world,” including “information ops (influence or disruption).””
I had ground support help, until very wise and tough guys became frightened by “men-in-black”
Julia
Who is supposed to take action from this strike?
Again Everyone. Whether, you understand it or not each and everyone of you are affected by jTRIGs. Each and everyone of your activisms are important. My life was put in peril by cowing. To me it ws not even significant cowing. However, very wise and tough guys and their good follows became frightened at what had become common every day occurrences to me.
Julia
Who is supposed to take action from this strike?
Every individual that was invited to this tread.
Seeing as death by dehydration takes about 10 days, do you expect this goal to be reached by then?
Yes, “the” goal would have been reached. This goal was not set by me but by jTRIG actions “to make something happen in the real... world”
Do you have a localized support system to help you through this 10 day process towards death?
No, I was dying on my own and alone, the only people with me was my cyber support.
Have you publicized this beyond this meme?
Had I died or became to weak to communicate, my mailing list would have gotten my coordinates. The meme was an after thought and the least of the events.
Julia
seeing as a water strike is a much shorter process than a food strike, there needs to be a lot of planning and outreach done before you start.
This I agree with. I did learn that I am very good at handling the stress of dehydration. There was absolutely effects. As Delph can attest to. I will hold this in my tool box. And I will encourage others to consider this as a tool that is more effective than a hunger strike.
Julia
otherwise you die for no reason.
The reason in this strike was to show jTRIG agents what really happens, the true effects. That real people with real lives can die. In that aspect, if I had died, I would have been successful. You may not understand testament to in individual to change them. However, I have repeatedly shown that such testament has profound effects.
Alex Braun
Alex
How will they know this is happening?
Julia
You added these people to this thread for a reason, a
Yes, it was a mixture of people. I am not usually this personal, nor this public.
I don't think it was to argue with them.
It was not.

I ask that you please take some time to answer the questions I posed.
I hope I have answered your questions.
It will help in all further communications about this AND it will help you in articulating your intent and the reasoning.
Thank you, for your personal testament. Your words have and did move me. And also was shown by grace in the stichomancy cleansing afterwards.
Julia
Sally Gellert
Sally
Julia, I have been worrying about you, Delphine contacted me to find out if I knew why you were doing this, she lost her mother recently and is finding this particularly difficult.

Sally, you absolutely should be worried. Though, I had means to be able to lessen the symptoms of dehydration. I went 3 days without water. I had gone 2 weeks without significant food. This was a very serious matter. Dalphine should have found this “ particularly difficult.” It was shocking and scary.
Julia
Alex Braun
Alex
WED 5:54PM

If you can't address the concerns and the valid questions people have asked, I wonder about the true intent of this.
Alex, I absolutely did see your words and concerns. And heard you. Though sometimes in a crowd, and yes, 12+ is a crowd, you get downed out. In this case drowned out by Sirgei. Who was a very jealous and full of envy at a time that was unacceptable for such. Notice when he got my location, we never heard from him again, and “the family” never showed.
It was you good people from this crowd that stepped forward to counteract what the jTRIG agents had cause to transpire.
Julia
There is a difference between wanting people's support and wanting attention.
Just as a hunger strike is about drawing attention. This was what this was about. Screaming when being attacked is not shameful.
Alex, I am 87% sure the jTRIGs had to be in this group.
Though without extraordinary technical support one cannot be 100% sure.
Thank you, good people of this chat that stepped forward, with actions and prayers.
Now to go over to the other chat, which I did not know about, though I did know about the gofundme.
BTW, it was actions from good people that had access to this chat and not the gofundme, that ultimately provided relief. My prayers, and my honor for you. May God have mercy on all.
Julia
Wow, there is so many people there I do not know. That is kind of scary to me.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
For the record, Julia you have not given your location to this chat group.
Also, you have not given permission to share your location.
Jay D Alexander
Jay

Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So there is nothing, I can do for the moment until you work with us.
Jay D Alexander
Jay
Life's a Beach Julie
Julia
Unless, you are coming o wine, dine, and bring massage and hottub support, you ned to stpo sirgei.
My name is Julia. It means "Youthful leader from God." , Jay
need*
stop*
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
"2/24, 3:55pm
Julia Clark

Sirgei, you just want my location to snitch me or harm me in some way.

Do you have a water truck?

Are you planning personally to come?"
"12:31pm
Julia Clark

Unless, you are coming o wine, dine, and bring massage and hottub support, you ned to stpo sirgei."
This does not sound very serious does it?
Julia
you are not very serious. The prayers of all that give me faith shown farther than your tomfoolery, Sirgei.
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Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Hi P.M. this is the original PM group
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Julia
I have work to do, sirgei.
Sirgei Agalzoff removed you from the group.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I just removed Julia after she removed me from the other thread after this message:

Jennefer do you know Julia personally?

"Jennefer Jane

No, but I do not support Julia since she is a cop lover and tried to DOX me. We kicked her off of NatGat admin for threatening people.
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Sean Wiggs
Sean
Why am I here again?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Hi Sean this is a duplicate thread of

https://www.facebook.com/messages/conversation-527295240764624
Julia is pulling one on us
Sean Wiggs
Sean
She's fucking nuts
She's unstable as hell and franly she gives me the willies
I'm likely a lot more cold blooded than most of my colleagues, but I can't give less of a shit if she's on a water strike and I don't believe her for a second
This screams of LOOK AT ME PAY ATTENTION TO ME
I deal enough with getting people mental treatment to not want to add Julia to my list of wards
Fuck her time wasting bullshit right in the ear
First I've heard of her getting kicked out of NatGat3 tho
I'm not exactly shocked
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Acknowledged
Sean Wiggs
Sean
What's all this about her being a cop snitch?
Seen by Delphine Brody at 3:22pmSeen by Scott Sorensen at 3:22pm
*crickets*
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
sorry I was in the other thread
Thanks for letting us know your prespective
Sean Wiggs
Sean
Sure. Can someone answer my question tho?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Her behavior is suspicious, she tried to DOX someone from Oregon at NatGat3
Todd Occupy Downing
Todd
i don't know about her being a snitch, but she has family who are LEO's and she makes no bones about supporting cops
Claire White
Claire
I don't know what the hell is going on in that other thread
And I don't know most of you lol
So forgive my silence on whatever weirdness is going on
Sean Wiggs
Sean
I'm Sean, admin for Occupy Seattle (well, one of them)
I'm assumin the majority of us here are Occupy admins as well
Todd Occupy Downing
Todd
I certainly don't want anything bad to happen to her and as a survivor of suicide I take such threats seriously, but... idk I just don't have the energy for this.

I don;t really know her at all and my interactions have always - at best - been overly complicated, uncomfortable, or outright hostile.

Hope she has some family or friends with experience with this that can help her out
Todd Occupy Downing
Todd
no worries claire wink emoticon
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Julia claims to be on a "Water Strike" til the death, she wants money, but she will not allow people to go the her and help her in person "for security" reasons

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10102607563678611&set=a.10100139445252721.2422712.33023298&type=3
No water. No life. Water strike. Join us.
Julia Clark
Claire White
Claire
Yeah, I'm an open minded one, and often not one to criticize the tactics of activists, but I'm rather skeptical about this specific situation
Sean Wiggs
Sean
If you're on a water strike but asking for money, you're not really threatening to commit suicide
Todd Occupy Downing
Todd
yeah to say the least... what is it suppose to be in solidarity with anyway?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Sean I looks to me that most of the people targeted here are from Sacramento or have FB Friends with people that participated in NatGat3
Sean Wiggs
Sean
Righto. Hi NatGat folk! I've been on planning calls for Nat Gat
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Cool, NatGat2016?
Yay!
Sean Wiggs
Sean
Maybe, I keep meaning to go
Todd Occupy Downing
Todd
Hey NatGat folks - wish things would have worked out better... covered the first one big time as an admin for Occupy LA grin emoticon
Sean Wiggs
Sean
3 year old and work kinda make it hard
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I see
Well, hope you can make time. Maybe making it family friendly?
Sean Wiggs
Sean
Wait, Sergei, you're OLA right?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
This is from the other thread:

3:34pm
Julia Clark removed William Spirit from the conversation.
3:34pm
Julia Clark removed Trina Allen from the conversation.
3:34pm
Julia Clark removed Todd Occupy Downing from the conversation.
3:34pm
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3:34pm
Julia Clark removed Suzette Elwell-Scardino from the conversation.
3:34pm
Julia Clark removed you [Sirgei] from the conversation.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
https://www.facebook.com/messages/conversation-527295240764624
Sean Wiggs
Sean
Ah, so she's removing anyone who knosw her well enough to call it out
Got it
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Yep
Delphine
?
She got cornered
Todd Occupy Downing
Todd
Sorry - have to leave this conversation.
Hope you all figure out.
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Jay D Alexander
Jay
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Julia removed from the other thread

https://www.facebook.com/messages/conversation-527295240764624
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
This are her last entries

Julia Clark

Rainbow people

Sirgei. Fuck off
Sirgei Agalzoff
4:23pm
Sirgei Agalzoff

How many people have you demanded to take an OATH TO YOU JULIA?
Julia Clark
4:23pm
Julia Clark

I have better things to do than deal with a wacko rainbow brain dead druggie
4:24pm
Julia Clark removed you from the conversation.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Please do not be duped by her.
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This woman on these threads seems like a bigoted, Bundy supporter.
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